All that good juice on the vines- and what about the apples?

For the past few years I've been harvesting and processing our grapes into juice with my handy Saftborn juicer. I don't even remember now where I got the thing, but it has come in pretty handy. This year our grapes were prolific- nice because I have previously known absolutely nothing about how to prune them. The raccoons tried to sneak in during the night to snatch them but the dog is very enthusiastic about protecting all of our fruit trees from the evil beasts and they seem to have given up lately.

Several years ago we made jelly and it was darned good, but alas, we seem to have eaten it all. The kids don't drink the juice much but this year one of them is enthusiastic about the warm juice coming out of the juicer so I have hopes that she'll continue to drink it once it is canned. I did discover that jelly can be made from the juice so hopefully I'll do that in a few weeks.

We don't have an apple tree but sometimes I find people via Craigslist who do and are happy to let me pick their apples- and grapes when ours weren't so productive. I have a fantasy of making genuine apple cider- the stuff that now has to be called "hard" cider even though it was formerly pretty much what people did with their apples. It looks like I don't need a cider press since I have a Cuisinart but I still need to figure out how to make it safely, without pastuerization. It's not that I care so much if the apples ferment- I just want to figure out how to do it. I've made plenty of juice that I can, which involves a hot water bath, but currently I'm mystified about keeping cider.